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The ManKind Podcast
The ManKind Podcast is a space where modern masculinity gets redefined by real men doing real work.
In a world full of outdated blueprints and noisy stereotypes, hosts Brandon Clift and Boysen Hodgson unpack what it means to be a man today with humor, honesty, and heart.
This isn’t about telling you WHO to be. It’s about helping you pick up the pen and write your own story of manhood. Whether we’re breaking down leadership blind spots, sharing the messiness of personal growth, or talking to mission-driven authors and change-makers, this show offers tools, stories, and soulful conversations to help you show up as the man you're destined to become!
If you’re ready to stop performing and start becoming, tune in. We’re here for the messy, meaningful, and often hilarious journey of becoming the kind of man and human you actually want to be.
Created by the ManKind Project USA.
Hosted by Brandon Clift & Boysen Hodgson.
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265 - From FBI Burnout to 35 Days at Sea — One Veteran's Search for Purpose with Jere Hartman
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The US military does an incredible job of creating warriors and a horrible job of bringing them home. Jere Hartman lived that truth. After leaving the 75th Ranger Regiment, he chased the career ladder at the FBI, hit 240 pounds, and looked in the mirror at a miserable man achieving goals that weren't his. So he quit, thru-hiked the Appalachian Trail, and then said yes to something drastic: rowing 2,800 miles across the Pacific Ocean with a crew of veterans. Thirty-five days at sea. No way out. No way to hide. Out there, he found what had been missing since the day he took off the uniform.
In this conversation, you'll learn:
- Why almost every warrior culture in history had a ritual for bringing soldiers home — and what happens when ours doesn't
- The night Jere thought he was having a heart attack 300 miles from shore, and how surrendering to it changed how he expresses himself forever
- Why the brotherhood on the boat formed between men who couldn't stand each other on land — and what that reveals about how male bonds are actually built
- The formula behind Courser Racing's model: hardship, brotherhood, no exit
- Jere's honest minimum dose for the 38-year-old with a mortgage and three kids who can't row an ocean — and why it starts with something you loved 20 years ago
- What happened when one crew member reached Hawaii, proposed to his wife again, and rebuilt his relationship with his kids and grandkids
Follow the crew as they train to cross the Atlantic — La Gomera, Spain to Antigua, 3,000 miles, departing December 2027.
Resources Mentioned:
- Courser Racing — https://www.courserracing.org
- Courser Racing Weekend & Week-Long Rows — https://www.courserracing.org/services
- The Comfort Crisis by Michael Easter — https://www.amazon.com/Comfort-Crisis-Embrace-Discomfort-Reclaim/dp/0593138762
- World's Toughest Row (the race Jere's crew completed) — https://www.worldstoughestrow.com
- Appalachian Trail Conservancy — https://appalachiantrail.org
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