The ManKind Podcast
The ManKind Podcast is a space where modern masculinity gets redefined by real men doing real work.
In a world full of outdated blueprints and noisy stereotypes, hosts Brandon Clift and Boysen Hodgson unpack what it means to be a man today with humor, honesty, and heart.
This isn’t about telling you WHO to be. It’s about helping you pick up the pen and write your own story of manhood. Whether we’re breaking down leadership blind spots, sharing the messiness of personal growth, or talking to mission-driven authors and change-makers, this show offers tools, stories, and soulful conversations to help you show up as the man you're destined to become!
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Created by the ManKind Project USA.
Hosted by Brandon Clift & Boysen Hodgson.
The ManKind Podcast
214 - Holding Space: The Courage to Lead Without Having All the Answers with Rhonda Schladand
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In this soulful and deeply human conversation, Boysen is joined by Rhonda Schladand—somatic healer, educator, and co-founder of the Holding Space training. Together, they explore what it truly means to “hold space” as a leader in today’s polarized, fast-moving world.
Rhonda shares her personal journey—from early experiences in Al-Anon and bodywork to leading trauma-informed, somatic-based group trainings. With vulnerability and clarity, she speaks to the wisdom of the body, the challenge of real leadership, and the need for community connection. This episode invites a radical reimagining of leadership—not as control or performance, but as presence, trust, and grace.
In This Episode:
- Waking Up the Voice Within – Rhonda’s path from co-dependency to somatic awareness
- The Wisdom of the Body – How trauma shows up in our leadership and how to work with it
- Beyond Binary Leadership – Letting go of control and embracing uncertainty
- Holding Space in a Fragmented World – Why this practice is more urgent than ever
- Community is the Container – Trust, resilience, and the return of the village
- Leading with Grace – Slowing down, allowing, and honoring our full selves
Whether you're leading in a boardroom, circle, or within yourself, this episode is a powerful reminder: the most transformative thing we can do is stay present with each other.
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👉 Women Within International
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Keywords
leadership, somatics, holding space, trauma-informed, community resilience, mindful
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